1978 Production/Format/Character Timeline Questions (Long)

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Re: 1978 Production/Format/Character Timeline Questions (Lon

Post by Joe Atari » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:24 pm

Thanks for all the replies everyone!
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Hope It's The Grog wrote:Just one minor answer out of all of those questions: I always thought Starbuck's intention in reprogramming the computer was to make sure he was selected, either as part of his quasi-death-wish personality or as a substitute for Apollo.
Starbuck was making sure he was picked to go on the mission. to rescue Cree. That was his only concern during most of the mission. Rescue Cree and save at least one of the Cadets he lost on that patrol.
That's it. I'd forgotten about the whole Cree thing...
Yeah you're right, but -- and I'm seriously overanalyzing here -- the dialogue in the finally aired episode is what always confused me; it wasn't until later that I learned about the reshoots. First of all, the output from the computer search Starbuck was supposedly reprogramming (we can easily read the hard copy on screen) only shows the 4 convicts (Croft, Thane, Leda, and Wolfe) and 2 warriors (Halls and Vickers), even though Athena says, "4 specialists and 3 support." There's one more unnamed warrior on the team, so Athena's report of the computer search is correct and does not seem to include the command crew (Apollo, Starbuck, and Boomer). The point is that the command crew didn't seem to be a part of the computer search. Furthermore, right after our first introduction to the convicts, Boomer says to Starbuck (from the original shoot), "I know this is one mission you're NOT going to volunteer for." If inclusion on the command crew was voluntary, why would Starbuck have to program the computer to pick him in the first place? A later scene (from the reshoots), where Starbuck jumps the guy for packing up Cree's stuff has Boomer questioning how the computer picked Starbuck. So the two added scenes were designed to establish some motivation for Starbuck to rescue Cree later. Even the Cree rescue scene seems to have been reshot for some reason (again, watch Starbuck's hair change length!).

Yeah, I know, BSG rarely holds up to this level of scrutiny, but I questioned this on the first viewing when I was like 8 years old! I think it was also Starbuck's genuine sense of dismay on seeing the results of a computer search he had just reprogrammed.

BTW, if BSG ever gets remastered in HD, can you imagine how bad those "clone" masks in the background are going to look?
Hope It's The Grog wrote:Add to that the Macnee monologue ending in "...far, far away amongst the stars" and the word "droid" (hastily overdubbed with "drone") and you've got a compelling case for a ripoff. Even the word "battlestar" sounds like an inversion of "star wars," with "Galactica" echoing the Galactic Empire.
Yeesh; I forgot about the "far, far, away" thing. Good thing they changed that to "somewhere beyond the heavens" or something like that.
Scott wrote:I've started digging thru my Galactica material and can give you at least one concrete answer. Fire in Space was meant to be the third tv movie produced. There's a script dated June 22, 1978 with the production number #50203, it is a 2 hr script. If I remember correctly some of the script is different from what was eventually filmed as the one hour episode. There is also a Tombs of Kobol script dated July 31, 1978 that has a production number of #50204.
Very interesting; so that would be "Lost Planet of the Gods" right? Since "Lost Planet" was shooting in 8/1978, it must be very close to the shooting script. Had Serina been added back in yet? That would provide a clue if the decision had been made at that point to go to weekly series or not -- that and if Cassie is a medtech or not.

I also read where the "Gun" script originally had a production number of #50203 but was changed to #50202.
Red Eye wrote:Both Mediascene mags covering BSG are available in the gallery:

http://www.byyourcommand.net/cylongalle ... album=1034
Interesting that Dykstra seems to know about potential theatrical release; in other interviews I've read (can't remember where) he takes the producers to task for doing just that (as if it was a surprise to him) because the shot on 35mm VFX wouldn't hold up on the big screen. BTW, having seen the movie theatrically more than once, they look just fine IMO.



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Re: 1978 Production/Format/Character Timeline Questions (Lon

Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Joe Atari wrote: Yeesh; I forgot about the "far, far, away" thing. Good thing they changed that to "somewhere beyond the heavens" or something like that.
And yet both the theatrical release and the telemovie went out with the "far, far away" version, though the series had used "somewhere beyond the heavens" ...
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Post by GoldCylon » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:19 pm

I need to go take a look at the movie release and compare it the the DVD set release. What is in letter box full screen compare to the 70's style TV set format. If I recall the DVD set was released standard format but filmed in letter box.
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Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:59 pm

GoldCylon wrote:I need to go take a look at the movie release and compare it the the DVD set release. What is in letter box full screen compare to the 70's style TV set format. If I recall the DVD set was released standard format but filmed in letter box.
The letterboxed version of the movie is cropped down to that ratio from fullscreen. Unfortunate and unnecessary, really. The VHS releases of the movie were in fullscreen.
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