A lightweight, extremely strong, and robust material. Info on working with it, making molds, fabrication of parts and more. The info is not specific to Classic Cylon Centurions, but SURE can be helpful for them and many, many others projects. Here you'll find various threads with great info from our members for the hobby of costuming.
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by Big Al » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:49 am
Resin and Epoxies Cont.
I found this on the Fibre Glast site and it is a good explination of different Fiberglassing resins.
Choosing the Right Resin
by daldrich@fibreglast.com
Resin selection is based on fabric compatibility, service conditions, and the desired characteristics of the finished part. There are three common types of thermosetting resin to choose from: epoxy, vinyl ester and polyester.
Moldmaking, molding and laminating operations can be performed with any system. Epoxy is the higher performance and higher priced system. It is used in weight critical, high strength, and dimensionally accurate applications. Vinyl Ester resin offers corrosion resistance, heat resistance and is blended for toughness. Polyester resins are less expensive, offer some corrosion resistance, and are more forgiving than epoxies. For this reason, they are the most widely used.
System 2000 Epoxy Resin
Uses:
Structural application,
High-strength projects,
Adhesion to metal.
Pros:
- High strength properties
- Superior to other room-temperature epoxies
- Maximizes the physical properties of carbon fiber, Kevlar
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by Big Al » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:41 pm
West Systems Fillers
403 Microfibers
403 Microfibers, a fine fiber blend, is used as a thickening additive with resin/hardener to create a multi-purpose adhesive, especially for bonding wood. Epoxy thickened with microfibers has good gap-filling qualities while retaining excellent wetting/penetrating capability.
Color: off-white.
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404 High-Density Filler
404 High-Density filler is a thickening additive developed for maximum physical properties in hardware bonding where high-cyclic loads are anticipated. It can also be used for filleting and gap filling where maximum strength is necessary.
Color: off-white.
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405 Filleting Blend
This strong, wood-toned filler is good for use in glue joints and fillets on naturally finished wood. It mixes easily with epoxy and lets you create fillets that are smooth and require little sanding. Its color is a consistent brown, so 405 can be used to modify the shade of other WEST SYSTEM fillers.
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406 Colloidal Silica
406 Colloidal Silica is a thickening additive used to control the viscosity of the epoxy and prevent epoxy runoff in vertical and overhead joints. 406 is a very strong filler that creates a smooth mixture, ideal for general bonding and filleting. It is also our most versatile filler. Often used in combination with other fillers, it can be used to improve strength, abrasion resistance, and consistency of fairing compounds, resulting in a tougher, smoother surface.
Color: off-white.
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407 Low-Density Filler
407 Low-Density filler is a blended microballoon-based filler used to make fairing putties that are easy to sand or carve. Reasonably strong on a strength-to-weight basis. Cures to a dark red/brown color.
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410 Microlight
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by groupleaderzeta » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:13 pm
I vary strongly recommend Fiberglast and their products. I have been using them for years. If you have questions their tech engineers are vary helpful.
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by Big Al » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:50 pm
groupleaderzeta wrote:I vary strongly recommend Fiberglast and their products. I have been using them for years. If you have questions their tech engineers are vary helpful.
Thanks Zeta for the Recommendation Reinforment!...I personly have never used the Fibre Glast products but I have friends that use it and the same from them, Very good product, Very helpful staff, That's why I fetured their products here.
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by Skullbeast » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:54 pm
Trick or tip:
Spray Lysol in the curing helmet after it's set but still "green" and the smell will be dramatically reduced.
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by Big Al » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:23 pm
Skullbeast wrote:Trick or tip:
Spray Lysol in the curing helmet after it's set but still "green" and the smell will be dramatically reduced.
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Thanks for the tip skullbeast!
Are you refering to the stinky polyester resin?????
And since I got you here, If you were going to make a fiberglass hard mold like what I'm about to get into here, would you use the polyester or the epoxy resin?
We have made hard molds for airplanes and used the west systems epoxy and it seems to work great..
What would you recommend and why??
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by Skullbeast » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:28 pm
Depends on the budget and the required # of castings. Best case epoxy hardmold for making soft parts. Or polyester and silicone for hard parts. And yes
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by Big Al » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:42 pm
Skullbeast wrote:Depends on the budget and the required # of castings. Best case epoxy hardmold for making soft parts. Or polyester and silicone for hard parts. And yes
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Excelent! Thank you for your imput
What would be concidered a "SOFT PART" or a "HARD PART" ?
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by Skullbeast » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:44 pm
Foam rubber like an arm or silicone skin, or casting resin and fiber glass helmets
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by groupleaderzeta » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:40 pm
If you drop it and it bounces, its soft. if you drop it and it leaves a hole or explodes in millions of pieces, then it hard.
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