A lightweight, extremely strong, and robust material. Info on working with it, making molds, fabrication of parts and more. The info is not specific to Classic Cylon Centurions, but SURE can be helpful for them and many, many others projects. Here you'll find various threads with great info from our members for the hobby of costuming.
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by Big Al » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:17 pm
Making a Fiberglass Mold and Duplicating
This is a thread that was posted on a motorcycle forum called "Do The Ton" and was posted on Feb 11, 2008. He is making a seat cowl for a classic 1971 Honda 750 and it's pretty well documented with step by step and some really good photos. The point is, he made the part the with the same process.
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Making a Fiberglass Mold and Duplicating By Old Dog on the "Do The Ton" forum Originaly Posted Feb 11 2008
A friend of mine that builds fiberglass chemical spray tanks for helicopters showed me a process for making a mold for my seat/cowl and then producing a part (or several) from the mold. I thought I would post the procedure if others want to try it. If you have worked with fiberglass before,its fairly easy but time consuming. If you have not worked with fiberglass before, I would not recommend that you jump into a project like this. You'll need an air compressor and spray gun as well. Materials needed can be obtained from a composites dealer like "Composites Canada". Just google out composites dealers and you'll find more answers there. I won't go into huge detail about mixing hardener with resin or the different weights of fiberglass materials cause it's too damned complicated for me too...read the can... One more note here. I'm sure that someone reading this will think "well there's a better or different way to do that". There probably is and feel free to add your comments. The guy that showed this procedure is well seasoned in the field and I was very impressed with what he knows. THANKS BOB!
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Shown below is the seat/cowl that I made by using the spray foam wood and fiberglass technique. It's somewhat heavy so I'm going to make a mold from it and then make a lightweight part from the mold.
[attachment=5]Honda 1.jpg[/attachment]
Prepping the part.
This is the part that I'm going to duplicate. It is important for you to know that I went through all the trouble here because I wanted to incorporate the original 1971 tail light. This part I will call the "plug". It was mounted to a flat board for a reason and you'll see why later. Important things to remember here are...the primer used here is epoxy primer (this primer has hardener that needs to be mixed in and applied with a spray gun), not acrylic which is the more commonly used primer for bodywork. The primer you get in a rattle can is acrylic and is not recommended. After you get a few coats of primer on the plug, dry sand and finally wet sand to remove as many imperfections as you can. The smoother you get the surface at this point...the less rework you will have to do when you pull a part from the mold.
[attachment=4]Honda 2.jpg[/attachment]
Aside from the resin, hardener and fiberglass that you'll need, these products are essential for mold/part fabricating. Mold release wax and coverall film. The wax goes on first and is applied like any other...wax on, wax off. The coverall film shown at right is a very important step in the process. This stuff is applied with your spray gun. No mixing, just dump it in the gun and apply it generously. When dry it will form a very thin film or barrier that resin will not penetrate. So to recap, epoxy primer...sand...apply wax...apply film. The plug is now ready to cover with material.
[attachment=3]Honda 3.jpg[/attachment]
Next step is to cover the plug with a product called "tooling gel". This stuff is a thick resin goop. Hardener is added and then applied with a brush. Tooling gel is used in the first layer of the mold because it offers a thick shell/layer that will allow you to re-tool or sand out any imperfections that may have existed on the original part. This layer took a couple of days to fully cure.
[attachment=2]Honda 4.jpg[/attachment]
After the tooling gel has hardened, your fabric layers are ready to apply. It's a very good idea to have all of your layers preselected and precut. If you have worked with resin/hardener before, you are aware that when resin starts to "kick" things start happening real fast. A good technique for laying in the resin/fabric is to use a cheap disposable paint brush and "dab" all around to remove air bubbles. For this mold, I have chosen the 5 layers as shown. The first 2 layers are called "veil". Veil is very thin and is good for conforming to tight corners and curves. This will minimize any air pockets. I applied both layers at the same time and left it overnight. The 3rd and 4th layers are similar to veil but much thicker and was referred to as "chop". The 5th layer is beefier yet and is a combination of chop and weave.
[attachment=1]Honda 5.jpg[/attachment]
Here is the mold after the tooling gel and 5 fabric layers. Ready to separate from the plug.
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by Big Al » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:44 pm
In The Mold Fiberglass Lay Up
Laminating fiberglass can be simple like the method we use for making the planes , 2 layers of glass, .75 Oz for the skin and 2 Oz behind that. or it can be several layers of different cloth weights and types such as chopped mat, 2 Oz, 4, Oz , 6 Oz, and so on depending on the strength you want, Or it can be a combination of glass and other material such as carbon and kevlar.
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This is a boat lamination example
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These next tutorials show a demonsrtation of a simple lamination for making parts for R/C Model Subs.
After these Tutorials I will cover Sandwich construction (Different than Lam) and Vacuum Bagging
This is a Great Site!
This guy has a great photo blog or photo essay, step by step detail on actualy making the fiberglass part in your mold. The name of the site is Rigid 'N' Soft Mold Technology. He has many other tutorials on making molds and plugs as well as plans and techniques.
They build model submarines so the Tutorial and pics are of nose cones being made and it is a perfect example of the process.
Rigid mold preparation, fiberglass reinforced epoxy(FRE) cloth layup. Rigid molds are used to create identical copies of a part. Each part is a hollow shell constructed from fiberglass reinforced epoxy(FRE). Of interest here, the molds are also constructed from FRE. This chapter takes you through the mold preparation and layup of the part. The next chapter deals with demolding the part after the epoxy has cured.
Here is the Tutorial
Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 1
Rigid molds are used to make repeated identical copies. Two shapes will be used for the purpose of demonstrating rigid molds, this one is the bow to a radio control model of the USN Los Angeles Class attack submarine. This part has a smooth finish, rounded at one end and a cylindrical shape at the other end. The line in the center is a parting line, the demarcation point between two mold parts. Such marks are common on manufactured items.
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Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 2
Rigid molds are used to make repeated identical copies. The second shape used for the purpose of this demonstration is the stern to a radio control model of the USN Los Angeles Class attack submarine. This part has detailed finish, with a long tapered cone at one end and a cylindrical shape at the other end. Two parting lines are visible, as are the multiple shapes of the sound dampening acoustic tiles attached all over US Navy submarines. Rigid molds are able to carry great detail over onto the part. There are small circular markings along the part lines, these indicate where hardware is to be installed. This ability to transfer details and markings makes rigid molds a very valuable tool.
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by Big Al » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:55 pm
Fiberglass Lay Up Cont.
Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 3
The bow part mold is the front four parts in this image, alternating yellow and blue. The stern part mold parts are slightly longer and are arranged in the back. The spray bottle in the lower right corner is one part PVA mold release solution and two parts denatured alcohol. The resulting spray is a very fine mist. The heat gun allows the alcohol to be evaporated quickly, allowing for faster recoating. The molds will receive at least six layers of PVA solution.
Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 4
The mold sections are stood vertically and sprayed with PVA solution. The sections will be rotated around to insure that PVA coverage is 100% of all areas that will be exposed to epoxy. Take a look at the blue bow section in front, laying down like this there are two vertical surfaces that the PVA will not stick to. By standing the sections upright, those surfaces are now horizontal and able to receive good PVA spray coverage. The PVA will be dried by the heat gun and the mold sections will be rotated to insure that all areas get good PVA coverage.
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by Big Al » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:42 am
Fiberglass Lay Up Cont.4
Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 9
Now it is time to apply the epoxy, in this case the first coat has been thickened to a consistency where a small dollop will adhere to a vertical surface without falling. Please review thickening materials in the epoxy supplies chapter. The epoxy brush has been trimmed about 1/8 inch shorter than provided, this gives the bristles some spring and some give. Never pour epoxy in a rigid mold for the first coat! Start at one end and brush epoxy on, always advancing with full coverage. Thin spots are ok, just make sure there are no breaks in the coverage.
Tip: Do not leave the epoxy edge alone, keep advancing the line until coverage is complete. If epoxy sits for any amount of time, it cures faster than moving epoxy. Even a few minutes sitting will cause a chemical change to the color at the edge. If the epoxy in this mold were left as is until second coat, there would be an ugly white line in a black part that would follow the existing edge you see.

Rigid mold prep, fiberglass reinforced epoxy (FRE) layup Overview-Page 10
The next step is a deceptively simple process called "edging". The two halves of this mold will need to come together cleanly later on. Right now there are many tiny epoxy incursions over the edge of the mold cavity and onto the flat flange area. A finger dragged lightly over the edge of the mold cavity will pick up these bits of errant epoxy quite easily. Care must be taken not to apply enough finger pressure that the PVA barrier is breached. This is easy to do when the epoxy is wet. However if this step is overlooked, small hard nodules of epoxy will form on the mating flange surfaces. This will prevent a successful closing of the mold and may render the part inside useless. The mating edge of the flanges must be clean! This step is repeated for every layer of epoxy applied into the mold.
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