Building a Replica Belt
- Christina
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Building a Replica Belt
In my quest for upgrading my Kropserkel Cylon to be more screen accurate I decided to look for a proper belt but unfortunately the searches for GM battery belts have turned up empty so I decide to build my own version based off the original belts.
Research time, I gathered every photo of actual belts I could find, thanks to so many that posted these pictures especially the ones with measurements. I also reviewed the other belt builds out there and came up with my approach to replicate the belt. I also wanted to add the control unit box on the GM belt so first I build a cardboard replica based on guesstimate measurements off photos and I went to Sayal electronics with it and found all the parts to fit my test piece. Success! I bought all the pieces for the control unit.
I started with making wood blocks to fit inside my Kropserkel belt cover plates. Pine boards cut to 3 1/2" by 3 1/2" by 3/4" thick for the base and 2 1/4" by 2 1/4" by 3/4" thick for the top block. Once cut down it was sanding time, I rounded all the edges as the finishing technique I had in mind would need rounded edges to work. Time to build the control unit, the size I estimated it to be was an odd size so using a scrap of 2x4 and gluing on a 1/4" strip I got the right thickness. I cut it down to 4 1/4" long, 2 3/4" high, and 1 3/4" thick and rounded all the edges off.
I then finalized the placement of the components and I marked out their spots for each one and made the holes for them. A forester drill bit set makes for very clean holes.
I glued the blocks together and test fitted the components in the control unit.
Next was onto the belt to attached the pieces to. I went to Tandy leather for a belt blank to use but it was $60 for one 3" wide, 50" long belt uncoloured, compared to a section of black hide 60" by 30" approx. 8 oz weight for $169 that I can use on multiple projects so that made it an easy decision.
With the hide in hand I cut a 2 3/4" long section from the hide. I test laid out the blocks and after trying different spacings I ended up with 1/2" spacing between each block.
Test fit the cover pieces.
Then I attached all the blocks and control unit to the leather with 4 screws on each. Voila a working belt. I double check the covers would fit by attaching them with painters tape and success.
Once everything was attached it was onto the big step of replicating a covering finish for the blocks similar to what the originals had. My original idea was to use worbla to finish each block but that failed miserably. I considered wrapping each piece in a black vinyl fabric but that wouldn't achieve the finish I wanted. Then an idea came to mind I thought should work. I made a test block and attached it to a scrap piece of leather and tested my new finishing technique out and was very happy with the results. I made a few tweaks for the final application and here is the finished application of the covering applied.
With the covering finished I added the hardware components to the control unit, added snaps to the ends to replicate the original belt finishing details and added Velcro to the tops of each block and inside the cover plates to secure them down.
I thought about trimming the tops of the belt plate covers like the originals but they aren' deep enough, so for now these will do until I replace them with screen accurate ones. If chroming wasn't such a chore I'd easily upgrade them now.
And here is the belt next to the Kropserkel base belt.
Next up is adding the grommet on the back off the belt and then sewing on Velcro on the ends to secure the belt closing. Stay tuned...
Christina
Research time, I gathered every photo of actual belts I could find, thanks to so many that posted these pictures especially the ones with measurements. I also reviewed the other belt builds out there and came up with my approach to replicate the belt. I also wanted to add the control unit box on the GM belt so first I build a cardboard replica based on guesstimate measurements off photos and I went to Sayal electronics with it and found all the parts to fit my test piece. Success! I bought all the pieces for the control unit.
I started with making wood blocks to fit inside my Kropserkel belt cover plates. Pine boards cut to 3 1/2" by 3 1/2" by 3/4" thick for the base and 2 1/4" by 2 1/4" by 3/4" thick for the top block. Once cut down it was sanding time, I rounded all the edges as the finishing technique I had in mind would need rounded edges to work. Time to build the control unit, the size I estimated it to be was an odd size so using a scrap of 2x4 and gluing on a 1/4" strip I got the right thickness. I cut it down to 4 1/4" long, 2 3/4" high, and 1 3/4" thick and rounded all the edges off.
I then finalized the placement of the components and I marked out their spots for each one and made the holes for them. A forester drill bit set makes for very clean holes.
I glued the blocks together and test fitted the components in the control unit.
Next was onto the belt to attached the pieces to. I went to Tandy leather for a belt blank to use but it was $60 for one 3" wide, 50" long belt uncoloured, compared to a section of black hide 60" by 30" approx. 8 oz weight for $169 that I can use on multiple projects so that made it an easy decision.
With the hide in hand I cut a 2 3/4" long section from the hide. I test laid out the blocks and after trying different spacings I ended up with 1/2" spacing between each block.
Test fit the cover pieces.
Then I attached all the blocks and control unit to the leather with 4 screws on each. Voila a working belt. I double check the covers would fit by attaching them with painters tape and success.
Once everything was attached it was onto the big step of replicating a covering finish for the blocks similar to what the originals had. My original idea was to use worbla to finish each block but that failed miserably. I considered wrapping each piece in a black vinyl fabric but that wouldn't achieve the finish I wanted. Then an idea came to mind I thought should work. I made a test block and attached it to a scrap piece of leather and tested my new finishing technique out and was very happy with the results. I made a few tweaks for the final application and here is the finished application of the covering applied.
With the covering finished I added the hardware components to the control unit, added snaps to the ends to replicate the original belt finishing details and added Velcro to the tops of each block and inside the cover plates to secure them down.
I thought about trimming the tops of the belt plate covers like the originals but they aren' deep enough, so for now these will do until I replace them with screen accurate ones. If chroming wasn't such a chore I'd easily upgrade them now.
And here is the belt next to the Kropserkel base belt.
Next up is adding the grommet on the back off the belt and then sewing on Velcro on the ends to secure the belt closing. Stay tuned...
Christina
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
This is top notch!
Amazing work on that belt! Plus pictures too! Im gonna have to re-do mine.
Whats the weight of the belt now? Id love to know the technique for smoothing out the thinner leather.
Amazing work on that belt! Plus pictures too! Im gonna have to re-do mine.
Whats the weight of the belt now? Id love to know the technique for smoothing out the thinner leather.
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Amazing work. I am impressed.
- Christina
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
Thanks,itookadooku wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:38 pmThis is top notch!
Amazing work on that belt! Plus pictures too! Im gonna have to re-do mine.
Whats the weight of the belt now? Id love to know the technique for smoothing out the thinner leather.
It certainly has some weight to it, I'll try to weigh it and get an accurate number but I guess its about 2 lbs.
The covering on the belt isn't leather, its a ancient Cylon secret.
What I used is Heat Shrink Tubing, I used a 4" diameter tube.
Here is the tubeing with the belt laying inside it before heating.
Using a heat gun on the hottest setting and applied the heat at one end and it slowly beings to shrink and tighten to the blocks inside. You need to heat from both the top, sides, and bottom to get a uniform shrinking happening. Go slow one block at a time. Wear gloves as you'll be smoothing some spots as you go and its incredibly hot. On the ends I heated it all the way around so the tubing shinks tight to the belt then I took a block of wood and pressed it tight against the end piece to get it to shape against the end piece. I left the ends long and trimmed them to size after it all cooled.
The only thing is it didn't shrink down in-between the blocks all the way to the leather belt base as I though it would. So I reheated the section in-between two blocks and used a screw driver with a round metal shaft and pressed that down immediately after heating the section stretching the material all the way down. Then hold it down in place for about a minute as it cools and it keeps that shape. Doing that one section at a time. This is why you need to have rounded edges on all the blocks as in my test piece one block was rounded the other wasn't and the heat tubing tore on the sharp corner as it shrunk and I pressed it down.
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- itookadooku
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
Thanks for the info. Where did you find the 4 inch diameter tubing?
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
I found the 4 inch heat shrink tubing at tag store called Sayal Electronics. When I was looking for my control unit components I saw huge section of tubing and at the boot was the 4" diameter tubing and I immediately thought that might work for the covering. Its $25.
https://secure.sayal.com/zinc/zinc_sear ... offset=200
https://secure.sayal.com/zinc/zinc_sear ... offset=200
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
EPIC BUILD.
WONDERFUL PHOTOS!
Cylon-Knight mind approved!
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
Back to the finishing details for the belt with adding Velcro.
I use a plumb bob for creating the holes in the leather belt to sew the Velcro on. Mark holes every 1/4" then hammer the hole in.
Velcro sewn on the one side.
The other side has the grommet added. I double stitched this side as you see the stitching on these piece.
I use a plumb bob for creating the holes in the leather belt to sew the Velcro on. Mark holes every 1/4" then hammer the hole in.
Velcro sewn on the one side.
The other side has the grommet added. I double stitched this side as you see the stitching on these piece.
- Christina
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Re: Building a Replica Belt
The belt is all done...up next making a belt for the sword scabbard. On the inside of the belt you'll see a leather loop attached this is to hang down to slip the scabbard belt through so it doesn't fall off my hip.
Now onto finishing up my replacement Gloves and a new C.O.R.A. Backpack, Chest Ribs and full Ankle armour.
Now onto finishing up my replacement Gloves and a new C.O.R.A. Backpack, Chest Ribs and full Ankle armour.
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HOLY BATTLESTARS, BATMAN!
You should offer those for sale in our Cylon Store. I'd consider one... my own replica belt isn't aging well...
You should offer those for sale in our Cylon Store. I'd consider one... my own replica belt isn't aging well...
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Now THAT'S a battery belt! WOW!
Even better than the originals if I may dare say so.
Very well done!
Even better than the originals if I may dare say so.
Very well done!
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