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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:00 am
by Big Al
:cylongold: Clone Trooper Matrix Mold Build Pics 6
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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:07 am
by Big Al
:cylongold: Clone Trooper Matrix Mold Build Pics 7
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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:09 am
by Big Al
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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:21 am
by Big Al
:cylongold: Clone Trooper Matrix Mold Build Pics 9
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:cylon: These are all the pics I could find on this build and if you want to see the original thread on this build you can find it here at Clone Troopers.Net Very cool tutorial. :cool:

Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:12 pm
by Cylon-Knight
Love the Clone Tropper Tut! Thanks for pointing it out, and the info Big Al.
I didn't read, but was it roto or slosh cast?

How much do you think the plastic mix, and mold making stuff run? SAY you wanted to do that exact same process on your own Clone Trooper sculpt... what would it cost you?

Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:05 am
by Big Al
Cylon-Knight wrote: Love the Clone Tropper Tut! Thanks for pointing it out, and the info Big Al.
I didn't read, but was it roto or slosh cast?

How much do you think the plastic mix, and mold making stuff run? SAY you wanted to do that exact same process on your own Clone Trooper sculpt... what would it cost you?
I'm not up to speed on the cost of the materials I didn't read it through either but I was thinking after the mold making tuts I will do some research on the chems and the different companies who offer them.

Besides I think those tuts are at least 6 to 8 years old so the prices would be different.

I'm sure it's the same companies that I listed in the Vacuum Form thread all carry the same stuff...Silicone, Fiberglass, Plaster, Resin, Plastic .....

Some of the suppliers have special silicone others have special resin.

I would like to get Skullbeast's opinion and recommendations on these materials He would be the expert as he uses them every day and he would know what would be best!

As far as the casting part on the last tut....I don't think the author said weather he hand slushed it or rotocasted it.

The machine would produce a better more even application though ...I have slush casted many pilot figures for my models but by hand no machine and then back filled them with expanding foam for strength. Much smaller mold and part so much easier to handle

I do remember when I was making molds, the silicone was the most exspensive (Room Temp Vulcanizing Silicone)....It's always cheaper to buy in bulk rather than little starter kits..Plastic Resin varies depending on the type of resin. Epoxy resin for the fiberglass is probably the cheapest. Mold release is in the middle somewhere but I can't speak too much on the subject till I get up to date.

I also need to explore the different clays available...

My dad is an artist and he has worked with both modelers clay and the polymers like sculpy....and I am not sure what the advantages are of either one....I have used modeler clay but never sculpy...I do know you can bake sculpy and make it hard but that's about all I know about it right now.

I will do some work on it tonight so we will know soon

Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:13 am
by Big Al
:cylongold:Sugar Bottle Molds


:cylon: I ran across this one while I was searching for mold making tuts, This one really has nothing to do with making Cylon parts or Rotocasting or even resin casting. But it is a Hollywood Classic! :cool:

Molding and casting Sugar Bottles!.....Something I always wanted to do!.....This is the method the studios use to make Break away bottles and glass for fight scenes.

The Silicone that is used in the demo is CopyFlex a food grade silicone because bakers also use this method and the sugar bottles for when making cakes.

The site is Make Your Own Molds.Com There are several videos on making some different mold (Mostly for cake decoration) But I thought you would enjoy this.

:cylon: How to make sugar bottles














How fun would it be to catch one of your friends off guard and just crack em across the dome with one of these :twisted:

I do know if you buy Sugar bottles on line they will cost you about $15 to $20 a bottle :wtf:

Here is a link to the PDF tutorial to make the Bottle Mold

They also have tutorials on making other types of molds...nothing fancy but worth checking out.


DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:24 pm
by Skullbeast
I'm a big fan of helmets being made from epoxy, because it will protect your head for real. I could only beg to see the pictures of a fallen solders with shards of resin or vacu form sticking out of the face.

Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:31 pm
by Big Al
Skullbeast wrote:I'm a big fan of helmets being made from epoxy, because it will protect your head for real. I could only beg to see the pictures of a fallen solders with shards of resin or vacu form sticking out of the face.
What kind of resin do you use for your helmets?.....I use West systems epoxy and the different fillers for the planes, I like the pump mesurements...a little pricy but good stuff

DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:44 pm
by Skullbeast
707 surface with a different laminating resin


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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:15 pm
by Huttman
Big Al wrote::cylongold: Clone Trooper Matrix Mold Build Pics 9
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:cylon: These are all the pics I could find on this build and if you want to see the original thread on this build you can find it here at Clone Troopers.Net Very cool tutorial. :cool:
my helmet was from that mold ;)

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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:20 pm
by groupleaderzeta
For those that have experience with RTV mold rubber, how much should I get to make 1 mold?
I am thinking quart kit, or should I get more.

I am also wanting to use fiberglass as the back up mold, next up on the machine list is to build a roto-caster. :grin:

DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:09 pm
by Skullbeast
For your head? No less than one gallon. Be sure to save all if your matrix clay. Stuff it in a bucket and you'll need about that plus some for your mold. No less than 3/8 of an inch for your wall thickness. Make a clay cutter. use wetclay. Bondoresin for the first coat of the jacket. Finish with laminating resin and glass cloth. drill bleeders. Vaseline the inside. I recommend 1065 from silpack. The green catalyst has less shrinkage. Long lasting. Tin base. 12 hour cure.


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DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:15 pm
by Skullbeast
Make sure your head is mounted to a base for registration so the closing up of the mold at a later time will be accurate for pouring the silicone. You don't want the mold to touch the head.


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Re: DIY Rotocasting

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:38 pm
by groupleaderzeta
I am wanting to make a mold of the head as a matrix mold. So I needed the info for the pink rubber stuff. I have made molds before but they were open 1 piece units. I will look into your suggestions. thanks