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Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:28 am

Hi! I'm trying to track down an "off-air" recording of The Living Legend part 1 that was made during the Eighties syndication run (or even from the original 1978-79 run, if anyone had a VCR back then). I taped all of these back in 1983, but my tapes seem to have been "lost in the move." :? There is a slight difference in the soundtrack from the SciFi Channel/ DVD version of the episode, and I'm just needing a sound clip if possible.

If you happen to have an old tape of this episode that you recorded during the Eighties, please contact me either in this thread or by PM.

Thanks! :salute:


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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Cylon-Knight » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:34 am

Welcome Hope It's The Grog!

Man, I wish I had a VCR in the 80s... Then I could rewind to my childhood. :)
I just have the DVDs of BSG.

I was wondering what is the difference in the audio exactly? Is it music or dialogue? Very interesting...
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Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:47 am

Thanks! :cool:

It's dialogue. Here is the difference: At the end of Part 1, as it used to be, after Baltar's pilot first sees the Pegasus and says "Sir, if I may," Baltar replies, "Not now!" But in the recap for Part 2, Baltar's "Not now!" is mixed out and you just see him mouthing it.

In the DVD version and the SciFi (now Syfy) repeats, the Part 2 sound mix was substituted at the end of Part 1 so you never hear the "Not now!" And the same thing was done in the re-edit for Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack.

So Baltar's words would seem to survive only on old off-air recordings, and that's what I'm trying to locate. :ugh:
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Post by Cylon-Knight » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:01 pm

Wow... very cool.

Perhaps our international members have different mixes of the show???
Red Eye / Anyone else? Can you maybe help put words into Baltar's mouth ;)
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Post by Red Eye » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:24 am

No, sorry.

But would be interesting to see / hear.
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Post by Bak Calif » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:29 pm

I think I actually do, just have to find it though is the thing.
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Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:04 pm

Bak Calif wrote:I think I actually do, just have to find it though is the thing.
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:ugh: That's my problem too! I should have still had it, but the tapes have eluded all my search efforts so I had to deem them "lost in the move." Please let me know if you run across it!
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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by GoldCylon » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:35 pm

I used to have well I still do the audio only recordings of the show as it aired but it is packed away. I used to listen them over and over again that I had all the words to every episode embedded into memory. This slight difference you're talking about I don't recall but it could be a visual only think you are talking about over audio.
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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:40 am

GoldCylon wrote:I used to have well I still do the audio only recordings of the show as it aired but it is packed away. I used to listen them over and over again that I had all the words to every episode embedded into memory. This slight difference you're talking about I don't recall but it could be a visual only think you are talking about over audio.
It's definitely an audio difference. The video didn't change; it used to be that you could hear the "Not now!" in episode 1. If you ever find the tapes and it checks out, please post an audio clip somewhere. Thanks.
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Post by GoldCylon » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:39 am

It will be a while before I can post it. I have to find them, but when I do I am curious to see if it is different.

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Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:40 pm

GoldCylon wrote:It will be a while before I can post it. I have to find them, but when I do I am curious to see if it is different.
Thanks, appreciate whatever you can do. :salute:

The only reason I remember it is because when I videotaped them in 1982 I was cramming 8 episodes onto a 6-hour tape by omitting beginning and end credits and the "scenes from part 2/scenes from part 1" segments, so I was doing some close real-time editing "on the fly" right at that point in The Living Legend. :smile:
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Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:26 am

I heard from Chris Pappas, expert in all things Galactica, who has reviewed his own tape and 16mm copies of eighties syndication episodes, and the line is not spoken there.

This means one of two things: Someone has planted a false memory in my brain (somewhat unlikely), or this bit of dialogue is one of the very rarest items of Galacticana in existence, appearing only on some of the syndicated copies of the episode.

I will certainly let you all know if my old tape ever turns up, because it was definitely on there.
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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Red Eye » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:23 am

Perhaps it did survive in the telemovie version of "The Living Legend". :huh:
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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Hope It Is The Grog » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:00 am

Red Eye wrote:Perhaps it did survive in the telemovie version of "The Living Legend". :huh:
I don't know. Does the true telemovie even survive? All I have is the version that Thistle Hill Media used to sell, which is more of a fan-made reconstruction of the telemovie that relies on several sources and uses the DVD of the episode for that particular portion.

I checked "Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack" and the line was not audible in that version either.
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Re: Do you have off-air recordings made during the Eighties?

Post by Red Eye » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:21 am

Tough question. The version sold by Thistle Hill is the only one around I know of.

Perhaps Chris will know?
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